In an unusually long thread on Vortex-L Jed Rothwell is defending Industrial Heat furiously against Rossi using mainly “Rossi says” vs. “IH says” arguments. That is interesting from a psychological perspective, but one quote caught my attention first.
I am not quick to judgement. I heard many months ago that the I.H. and Rossi disagreed about the calorimetry. They did not say why.
This sounds a lot like Mr Weaver spinning about something happening October/November when things started to get out of hand for IH in their relation to Rossi. To me it is not a coincidence. As you know this was the same time IH started to line up competitors like Brillouin and Lenuco in their stable and Rossi started to get suspicious about their intentions. This was probably the time when Rossi realized that IH was not going to pay him the $89M regardless of ERV results
Obviously Jed was included in the IH spinning at that time. He was not convinced though, since he agreed to participate in the Stockholm symposium by Mats Lewan as a speaker.
Did he know this all along? Was he part of a setup? Was he actually a trojan horse used to cancel the Stockholm symposium? Many indices points to this being a priority on the IH (maybe even Apco) agenda. Darden travelling to Sweden to insert FUD and “hints” is another dirty one. Why on earth would IH/Jed care if it took place, especially if they thought the Penon report was so bad? The use of personal hints/threats in mails and forums towards Mats (and me!!!) to back off, certainly hints their malicious intent.
Then on March 10 I.H. issued the press release, and I knew they & Rossi had not reconciled. I thought "it's over now." I spent a few weeks trying to convince Mats to cancel the symposium, which he finally did when it become apparent Rossi would not release the report.
Then came the complaint. And suddenly the vague press release became very explicit. Jed was briefed the following:
"Industrial Heat has worked for over three years to substantiate the results claimed by Mr. Rossi from the E-Cat technology – all without success." I asked them what that means. They said it means the machine did not produce excess heat.
Well. If this is so obvious, why do not IH write it themselves and make it official? Because it has to be deniable of course … Since it is not the truth … IH is playing Jed for a fool or worse, threatening him in some way. Since personal hints and threats are plentiful (even against me), this is not too far fetched I guess.
The threat hypothesis became even more probable reading Jed’s comments om different forums, even here on this site. Something scary had happened. For several years I’ve known Jed to be rational, allthough I realized that he did not “get” the Rossi personality, he was generally open minded and fact orientated.
Because I know about Rossi. I have spoken with people who tried to deal with him, and offered him millions. He refused to do a simple test to get the money. This happened on at least three occasions to my knowledge. Not counting the 1-year failed test he did for I.H. He is either incompetent, crazy or a fraud -- or all three. I can't tell what his problem is.
You are completely wrong. Everything I say is based on facts.
Suddenly he became totally lost in emotions. And he do not even realize it!
The ERV is Penon, who is a certified idiot.
> Talking about the validity of the E-Cat technology, Fabiani continues: > I don't believe that guy either. Is he an employee of I.H.? I doubt it, but if he is they should fire him. Rossi's blog is not a reliable source of information.
Wow! You see where I’m getting …
Again, trying to deny facts. Fabiani has been contracted by IH for more than two years. And the information did not come from JONP, but from an interview by Mats Lewan.
Bob Cook wrote: > I think I understand why you believe NASA the Navy and elsewhere, as well > as the venture capitalists—they have spoon-feed you. Most of them are the > same government/energy village, not unlike the “nuclear village in Japan, > that has tried to discount the LENR technology development for the last 27 > years at the great expense of civilization IMHO. > Oh give me a break. That's such nonsense. Such unfounded, ignorant bullshit! You have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you think I was born yesterday? I can judge people and judge facts myself.
Facts maybe, people – no way. If the person analyzed does not fit in the Jed box emotions takes over and Jed is clearly loosing it.
I.H. will get nothing out of the deal. No intellectual property. Nothing. Because they did not pay the $89 million. If they actually thought it worked, why would they turn their backs on it now, and write off the $11 million? There is no intellectual property in any case, because the gadget does not work.
Finally; Jed has been pushing his calorimetry knowledge for ages, but when it comes down to it his primary argument is exactly the same as the damaged Mr Weaver. …
Not a chance. Just looking at the facility you know there cannot be a 1 MW heat source in it. It would cook everyone in that part of the building. That is enough heat for 100 dry cleaning machines. You couldn't fit that many in such a small area, never mind operating them.
Hmm… Scientific …